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MrWiffles 9 minutes ago [-]
With high resolution cameras, indefinite data retention and third party data leaks being a matter of when, not if, this seems like a perfect way to get your fingerprints stolen by organized crime syndicates worldwide. If not next year, then in 5-10 years. And when they get used for “something”, what happens when you go on vacation somewhere and you’re detained at that country’s border for a crime that happened N years before your very first entry into that country ever happened?
With as many Ph.D.s as there are at Google, you’d think they’d be smarter than to come up with this. Which is how you know the PMs are in charge, not the smart people.
Cider9986 19 hours ago [-]
I saw a post on the GrapheneOS forum of someone who was accosted by Google with this requirement, so they are certainly using it.
It's interesting the parallels of Google's recaptcha and Cloudflare turnstile.
Cloudflare is free, no image selector, allows VPNs and Tor for the most part, just 0 click with a good ip reputation and 1 click with a bad one.
Recaptcha is paid, trains waymos, sucks millions of hours of human time, asks for camera access, asks for a phone attestation, blocks VPNs/Tor.
Thank god less sites are using ReCAPTCHA.
Looking forward to some other solutions gaining prominence eventually as well.
Doesn't surprise me at all and seems like a good solution to the problem of human verification. It won't take long for AI to catch up to that, but this captcha method might hold for a couple of months.
Not sure what problem everybody here is having with this. The alternative would be device certificate stuff (ala did Apple sign for this being a proper Apple device?). Having to shake your hand sounds a lot more privacy friendly.
Are you guys seriously worried that Google is gonna steal your secret handshakes?
aix1 13 hours ago [-]
> Not sure what problem everybody here is having with this.
For starters, it's extremely invasive (camera on to pay a bill - wtf?), has unclear privacy implications and questionable accessibility (to put it mildly).
Terr_ 21 hours ago [-]
Imagine getting your hand wrongly blacklisted as a fake, and then someday down the road you make a wrong gesture during an online interview and now your real-name is also on the suspicion list.
nerdsniper 20 hours ago [-]
Imagine you don’t have a hand.
ButlerianJihad 15 hours ago [-]
As a Man of Culture, my hand ranks highly among my most valuable appendages!
smalltorch 20 hours ago [-]
I could see this being privacy friendly if the user could see exactly what Google was using.
For instance, terminalcam, gives just enough data to reveal liveness without necessarily giving enough information about identity.
With as many Ph.D.s as there are at Google, you’d think they’d be smarter than to come up with this. Which is how you know the PMs are in charge, not the smart people.
It's interesting the parallels of Google's recaptcha and Cloudflare turnstile.
Cloudflare is free, no image selector, allows VPNs and Tor for the most part, just 0 click with a good ip reputation and 1 click with a bad one.
Recaptcha is paid, trains waymos, sucks millions of hours of human time, asks for camera access, asks for a phone attestation, blocks VPNs/Tor.
Thank god less sites are using ReCAPTCHA.
Looking forward to some other solutions gaining prominence eventually as well.
Like that Anime girl one.
https://m.xkcd.com/2228/
Not sure what problem everybody here is having with this. The alternative would be device certificate stuff (ala did Apple sign for this being a proper Apple device?). Having to shake your hand sounds a lot more privacy friendly. Are you guys seriously worried that Google is gonna steal your secret handshakes?
For starters, it's extremely invasive (camera on to pay a bill - wtf?), has unclear privacy implications and questionable accessibility (to put it mildly).
For instance, terminalcam, gives just enough data to reveal liveness without necessarily giving enough information about identity.
https://gitlab.com/here_forawhile/terminalcam
They asked for feedback after I canceled the login, I gave very candid feedback in a form.
Then they asked if I would give an interview.
You know why I wanted to log in? To claim a $7 refund.
They ended up mailing it.
The internet is dead.